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Jonathan Dubois
(1704-1787)
Ariaantje Oosterhout
(1712-1776)
Richard Griffin
(1722-1795)
Catharine Vanderhoof
(Abt 1722-)
Cornelius Dubois
(1750-1834)
Charity Griffin
(1753-1827)
Sally Dubois 'Aunt Sally Dye'
(1796-1877)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. William Palmer

  • Deborah Palmer+
  • William G. Palmer+
  • Dewitt George Palmer+
2. James R. Dye

Sally Dubois 'Aunt Sally Dye' 495

  • Born: 17 Oct 1796
  • Marriage (1): William Palmer 725
  • Marriage (2): James R. Dye about 1849 in Wisconsin
  • Died: 1 Jul 1877, Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI at age 80
  • Buried: Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI 499

bullet   Another name for Sally was Sarah.

bullet   FamilySearch ID: GMJR-B1Z. Find a Grave ID: 20054022.

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bullet  General Notes:

There are several references to "Aunt Sally Dye" in the material of Elizabeth Mott, expecially referencing letters from Earl Ham and in genealogies of the Dubois' and Ham' that they tried, rather successfully but not well organized, to compile. The Find-a-Grave memorial of James R. Dye (190669975) based on obituaries, especially of his daughter Sarah Dye Grant (FaG 30023477) clears a lot up and adds children both of his first wife.

"James R. Dye moved from Jefferson Co. , New York to Jefferson Co., Wisconsin after the death of his 1st wife, Sally (Fox) Dye in April 1833. He brought with him. His new wife, (Name unknown),that he married in September 1833, in Magraw, Cortland Co., NY, his youngest daughter, Electa, and his widowed sister-in-law, Sophia Fox. His new wife then died. He then married his 3rd wife, the former, Mrs. Sally Palmer, who had 3 children, Deborah, William & Dewitt. and who outlived him, as her tombstone clearly reads, "Sally, Widow of James R. Dye."



"Aunt Sally Dye," as she appears in the notes of my Great Aunt H.E. Mott, was the youngest child of Cornelius and Charity (Griffin) Dubois, born in 1796 the young sister of my 3rd Great Grandfather Jonathan Dubois.

Her husbands and children are a bit of an enigma. Many of the family trees and Find-a-Grave
have it that she had five children that survived, three with J., or William, Palmer, and two with James Dye. I find that hard to believe considering the documented birth years of the five children, all whom appear to have been in New York State, likely Tioga County, before Palmer died and Sally and went to Wisconsin about 1847 (per the obituary of son William G. Palmer) where she married the widower James R. Dye who died between 1860 and 1870 (censuses).

Children attributed to Sally Dubois (1796-1877):
born 1835: James Walter Dye
born 1836: Deborah Palmer (married ____Kings per the 1860 census living with her mother and young son. FaG memorial says "Kinney.")
born abt 1838: William G. Palmer (obit says he came to Wisconsin about 1847)
born 1838: Liberty Dye (1862 war registers and enlistment register (age 25) identifies father as James____, mother Sally Palmer.
born 1841: Dewitt G. Palmer

Sally (Dubois) Palmer moved to Hebron in Jefferson County Wisconsin about 1847. James had had two wives before Sally, the first being Sarah Fox. According to the notes on James' first wife's Find-a-Grave, Sally Fox, she died in 1833 and he married "an Unk woman" who died shortly after they moved to Wisconsin. [LINK]. I would submit that the 1840 census of Tioga County of James Dye is with the "Unk woman" and the two boys under 5 are Liberty and James W. Dye and not Aunt Sally Dye's sons but would become step-sons.

So two options seem evident as to the parentage of James Walter Dye and Liberty Dye: they were either the sons of James Dye with an earlier wife, or they were actually sons of Palmer and Sally and took the surname of their stepfather after 1847. I would think the first option is the more likely.

1840 census of Tioga County New York:
I suspect that the 1840 family of William Palmer in Tioga County contains Sally Dubois, his wife. The census record has 1 male under 5 (William G. Palmer), 1 male 15-19 (unknown or mistake), 1 male 50-59 (William Sr), 1 female under 5 (Deborah), one female 40-49 (Sally Dubois Palmer). (Dewitt was born in 1841.)

The same census of Tioga County has the rather large family of James Dye: 2 males under 5 (James W. & Liberty), 1 male 10-14, 1 male 15-19, 2 males 20-29, 1 male 40-49 (James), 2 females 10-14, 1 female 15-19, 1 female 20-29, 1 female 40-49 (the "Unk" woman?), 1 female 70-79 (likely a mother.)




bullet  Research Notes:

OneWorldTree indicates that she was the daughter of Thomas Palmer although the dates in that search do not match up. the location to Hebron and that she married James Dye does, however.

See the 1850 and 1860 censuses for Hebron which show her married to James R. Dye but the children are surnamed Palmer: William, Dewitt, and possibly Deborah Kings who has a six month old child and no husband - she is likely a Palmer as well. - William appears in later censuses etc - a line to follow out.

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10 Aug 1810: Received E. Greenbush DRC
11 Jul 1835 Dismissed by letter from E. Greenbush DRC
Moved to Tioga County by 1834
Find a grave death date equals Griffith date. Need to clean up. Problem is that per the will of Henry DuBois, which names wife Sally and children, is that she, his wife is likely buried with him in New York State: FaG Memorial 129023093
This likely NOT "Aunt Sally Dye"
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bullet  Events

Church: Reformed Church at East Greenbush, 10 Aug 1820, East Greenbush, Rensselaer Co., NY. 726

residence, 1840, Tioga Co., NY. 727

Census: Federal, 1850, Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI. 496 Farmer

Census: Federal, 1860, Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI. 497

Census, 1870, Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI. 728 Age 73 in the household of Wm G. Palmer, age 32, his wife and two small children, Lizzie (2), and Herbert (7 mos).

Census: Federal, 1870, Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI. 729 Farmer

Burial: Munro Cemetery, 1877, Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI. 499 Headstone inscription reads "widow of James R. Dye." His headstone is not there although there is a James W. Dye died 1875 age 39 with a wife Mary (1837-1878). A son??

Munro Cemetery
Jefferson County, Wisconsin
Hebron Twp, T6N R15E Sec. 34
Lat: 4255'55"N, Lon: 8843'08"W


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Sally married William Palmer.725 (William Palmer died about 1845.)


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Sally next married James R. Dye about 1849 in Wisconsin. (James R. Dye was born in 1793 in DeRuyter, NY, died between 1860 and 1870 in Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI 494 and was buried in Hebron, Jefferson Co., WI.)




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