1-William Talbot (I) b. Abt 1530, d. 1574, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
Born around 1530, William Talbot (I) was at Corpus Christi College, Oxford in 1547 and at the Inner Temple in 1555.
With money borrowed from his elder brother Thomas, William Talbot (I) purchased the manor of Broadmayne about 1560 from
William West, baron De La Warr.
He married Christian Yeomans and died leaving a PCC will proved in 1574.
References: Purchase: Somerset and Dorset Notes and Queries vol.6. See Bibliography below.
William (I)'s will.
William’s will of 10 June 1574 proved on the 29th of September, 1574, names his brother Thomas. One part of his estate, four tenements, he gave to Thomas in return for the contribution to the purchase of the whole estate. He names as his sons William (II -below), John, George, daughter Elizabeth and “the rest of my daughters” (not named but all daughters have yet to marry. Alice Talbot - ‘one of the rest of my daughters’, married Richard Stevens who is named in his son William (II)’s will. He names his wife Christian Talbot heir to all the rest of the goods and chattels not bequeathed and she to be sole executrix. He also names five ‘overseers’ and seven witnesses including Thomas Talbot who is both an ‘overseer’ and a witness, presumably his brother.
+ Christian Yeomans
2-George Talbot
2-John Talbot b. Abt 1567
2-William Talbot (II) d. 1615, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
William Talbot (II) was second son to William Talbot (I) but survived to inherit the manor of Broadmayne. He married Alice Henning,
daughter of John Henning of Poxwell Manor (PCC will 1617) and Dorothy Warham, daughter of John Warham of Compton Valence (PCC will 1572).
The Hennings and Warhams are detailed in the 1623 visitation. His PCC will was proved in 1615. Henceforth the family named the eldest son William.
Ancestry of John Henning and Dorothy Warham on another page.
+ Alice Henning b. Abt 1572, Bur. May 1637, Studland, Dorset, England
She is often declared as the Alice Talbot who was buried in Studland in 1637 per the Parish Register there, but that is possibly another of that name: she is not mentioned in her husband's will of 1615. Her children are given bequests in her father's will of 1617 along with the children of three sisters but she is not declared as "deceased." It remains a debatable question which might be resolved by further research.
William (II)'s will.
William’s will of September 15, 1615 and proved a little more than four and a half months later on February 3rd, is very instructive as to his family. Besides William, “mine eldest son” [William (III) below] he names John as his youngest son [not yet 21] and his son Edmond in an apprenticeship. Four daughters are named, none of whom are married as of the date of the will: Alice, Anne, Elizabeth, and Edith. The order of birth is unknown except the eldest, William born 1591, and John, the youngest born 1609.
Other relationships are made clear: his sister Elizabeth is named Elizabeth Younge of Toller Porcorum.
John Talbot named ‘my own brother.’ Three brothers-in-law are named to be overseers: Richard Henning; Edmond Dashwood, merchant of Dorchester [married to Tomazin Henning, wife Alice’s husband who was also Mayor of Dorchester at one point]; Richard Stevens of East Chaldon. William Morris is named “kinsman” – an ambiguous term.
3-William Talbot (III) b. 1591, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. After 1662, Little Mayne, West Knighton, Dorset
William (III) was first son of William Talbot (II) and Alice Henning. According to the visitation he was born around 1591. He married second Honor,
daughter of William Tulse of Hinton Admiral and sister of Henry Tulse MP (d.1642). In 1625 William Talbot (III) took out a lease of lives
on the farm and manor of Little Mayne.The three lives concerned were William Talbot (III),
his wife Honor and their son William Talbot (IV). This document makes the link missing in Hutchins, the fact that the Talbots of Broadmayne and
Little Mayne were the very same family.
In 1629 he also purchased the tithes of the long-defunct Little Mayne chapel.
This purchase is mentioned by Hutchins in the first edition under ‘Knighton’: ‘The tythes now valued at 30l per ann. were vested in Richard Noy;
under whom William Talbot claimed them by purchase 7 Car. I [1632] and to his heirs they still belong. ’ He sold the lordship of the manor of Broadmayne,
but ownership remained in dispute until the 1662 settlement between him, his wife Honor, and Robert Henning, son of his uncle Robert Henning (1590-1660)
who had presented the living of Broadmayne in 1639.
References:
a) 1625 Lease: Dorset History Centre ref: D-HIN/5191; b)1629 purchase of tithes of Little Mayne Chapel:(Dorset History Centre refs: D1/11741, D1/11740 and D1/11742);
c)1662 settlement: (Dorset History Centre ref. D-CRI/A/7/1/1).
+ (m. first)Avis Cokeram
4-Avis Talbot
+ (m. second) Honor Tulse
4-Honor Talbot b. 1621, d. 1697
4-Anne Talbot b. Abt 1622
4-William Talbot (IV) b. 1623, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. Abt 1692, Little Mayne, West Knighton, Dorset
4-William Talbot (IV) was succeeded by a son, Stephen, and a grandson, William, evidenced by the 1692 renewal of the lease his parents had taken out in 1625.
Dan acquired photographs of the 1692 lease of three lives, the three lives being himself (William IV), his son Stephen, and his grandson William. The key is “grandson William.” While we may never know whether the grandson was the son of Stephen who was continuing the “William” tradition, or of a William who had died before the 1692 lease renewal, the line is intact without knowing the specifics of one generation.
The other, possible son William, may have died, or defected from the family before the date of the lease renewal; the period of the 1680s on were Civil War between Protestants and Catholics and, as happens in Civil Wars, families as well as nations, are torn asunder. What we know for certain is that William Talbot, gentleman of Little Mayne, took out a further lease on Little Mayne Farm in 1692. This date may mark the death of William Talbot (IV), the third of the three lives benefitting from the lease of 1625 taken out by his parents and which he renewed in 1692.
5-Stephen Talbot was born perhaps in the 1650s. There is a reference to Stephen Talbot yeoman of Little Mayne in the Dorset Quarter Sessions Order Books (1693). Hutchins has Stephen Talbot gent as the last of the Talbots of Little Mayne Farm, dying in 1734
5-William Talbot (V) was born perhaps in the 1670s and may or may not have been the brother of Stephen; he may be the WT buried at Broadmayne in 1714.
Still a gray area as while these two may have been brothers, they may have been father and son with William born first. There are not adequate records to define this generation. If it is two generations then generation numbers would need to be increased by one in the following lineages.
One must remember that these decades were ones of intense religious and political Civil War, and it’s quite possible that the family had divided loyalties resulting in a paucity of records.
Dan Talbot’s and Steve Spicer’s descendancy from the first William Talbot break at Richard (1697-1775) and his brother William. What follows, highlighted, is Steve’s descendancy to the Spicer marriage. Dan’s descendancy is not included on this page other than the summary below, but with a subscription is continued on his Ancestry.com Family Tree at https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/27657500/person/5034262637/facts (New window or tab.)
6-Richard Talbot (1697-1775)b. 24 Jul 1697, West Knighton, Dorset, c. 12 Oct 1697, Broadmayne, Dorset, d. Mar 1775, East Burton, Dorset, Bur. 21 Mar 1775, East Burton, Dorset.
+ Mary [?] Bur. 30 Dec 1765, East Burton, Dorset, England
7-William Talbot b. 1719, d. 24 Sep 1791, East Burton, Dorset, England
7-Richard Talbot b. 1722, d. 1797, Arne, Dorset, England
7-Stephen Talbot b. 1723, Lytchett Minster, Dorset, England, d. 1782
7-James Talbot b. 1731, Arne, Dorset, England
When William Talbot (VI) died, his estate was administered by his widow Mary, who left a will in 1756 (see below for image.). In 1743 his brother Richard Talbot, yeoman of Arne, signed a bond of guardianship in favour of William Talbot (VII), ‘William Talbot a minor the natural and lawful son of William Talbot the elder late of the parish of Broadmaine … intestate’ (Dorset History Centre ref: AD/DT/G/2/17). We can identify this Richard Talbot, who died in East Burton 1775, with the child born in the parish of West Knighton (where Little Mayne Farm is) on July 24, 1697 (son of William) and baptized in Broadmayne on August 15, 1697 (son of William Talbot junior of Little Mayne and Mary his wife): ‘Richardus filius Gulielmi Talbot Jun de Little Mayne et Mariae uxoris Bapt Augusti 15’. This last entry informs us, then, that William Talbot (VI)’s parents were William and Mary.
A note on Richard Talbot’s descendants.
Richard moved to Lytchett Minister, where his first three sons, by his wife Mary, were baptized: ‘A son’, presumably William (1719), Richard (1722) and Stephen (1723). He then moved to Arne, where his fourth son James was baptized (1731). While a yeoman at Arne, he signed a bond of guardianship in 1743 for his nephew, William Talbot (VIII) of Broadmayne, son of William Talbot (VII), who had died intestate in 1733. By the time of his death in 1775, Richard had moved to East Burton. In his will he names all four sons: William and his children James and Mary; Richard – who had remained in Arne - and ‘his four youngest children’ (Richard was the eldest; the others were James, Robert, Mary and Sarah); Stephen and his son Richard (b. Arne 1749, d. a gentleman aged 71, East Burton 1821, PCC will 1822); James (PCC will 1825) and his two sons (John 1761-1844, PCC will, and Richard (1764-1833, PCC will). To his eldest son William, Richard left a farm in East Burton called Dunnings, which was then to go to William’s own son James. William died a yeoman in East Burton in 1791, leaving a will. His son James Talbot, yeoman, was born in 1757 and died intestate in 1804; his widow Mary (Snook) in turn bequeathed Dunnings in her 1831 will to her son, John Snook Talbot. The eldest son of James and Mary, William Talbot (1779-1828) married Elizabeth Hibbs and had a number of children, including Stephen Talbot (1804-53) the first of four generations of gamekeeper. Stephen married Elizabeth Langdown; their son Charles Austin Talbot, born 1832, married Elizabeth Bulbeck Frogbrook, illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Frogbrook (nee Budd) and Thomas Bulbeck, timber merchant of Singleton, Sussex. Their son Joseph William Talbot (1863-1942) married Alice Jackson after the birth of their son William Talbot (1885-1935). William married Margaret Armstrong and their son Frederick Gordon Talbot (1914-2003) married Daphne Josephine Gibson. Their son Neil William Talbot married Katherine Mary Penrice and is father to Daniel Talbot, author of these notes.
6-William Talbot (VI) b. Bef 1697, c. Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1733, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
William Talbot (VI) was born some time before 1697, and died intestate in 1733. By then Little Mayne Farm was
in other hands; in 1731, James Spratt had taken out a lease on Little Mayne Farm.
Documents after this date describe the family as of Broadmayne not Little Mayne; the tithes of the chapel, however, still belonged to the family.
When William Talbot (VI) died intestate in 1733, his estate was administered by his widow Mary, who then left a 1754 will proved in 1756. In 1743 his brother Richard Talbot, yeoman of Arne,
signed a bond of guardianship in favour of William Talbot (VIII), ‘William Talbot a minor the natural and lawful son of William Talbot the elder late of
the parish of Broadmaine … intestate’. We can identify this Richard Talbot, who died in East Burton 1775,
with the child born in the parish of West Knighton (where Little Mayne is) on July 24, 1697 (son of William) and baptised in Broadmayne on August 15, 1697
(son of William Talbot junior of Little Mayne and Mary his wife): ‘Richardus filius Gulielmi Talbot Jun de Little Mayne et Mariae uxoris Bapt Augusti 15’.
This last entry informs us, then, that William Talbot (VII)’s parents were William and Mary.
References:
a) 1631 Lease: Dorset History Centre ref. D1/11754. b) Guardianship bond: Dorset History Centre ref: AD/DT/G/2/17.
+ Mary [?] d. May 1756, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, Bur. 27 May 1756, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
Mary's 1754 will proved in 1756 named her daughters Mary Talbot and Elizabeth Sherrin. As pointed out above, it is curious that her son William was not named, only John, William's son. Notice a witness; Barbara Sherrin. Also, while a generation or two later, on the 1811 Inclosure map (below), notice the neighbors of William Talbot: Robert Sherren and Henry Sherren.
7-Elizabeth Talbot c. 14 Nov 1716, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, Bur. 5 May 1717, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
7-Elizabeth Talbot c. 13 Mar 1717/18, Broadmayne, Dorset, England. m. James Sherren
7-Mary Talbot b. 1721, c. 13 Sep 1721, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
7-William Talbot (VII) b. 1724, c. 2 Oct 1724, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1781, Bur. 8 Jan 1781, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
William (VII) was the son of William (VI) and Mary [?]. Baptised in Broadmayne October 2, 1724, "1724 Gulielmi filius Gulielmi & Maria Talbot Bap 2...[smudged]",
he was favoured the guardianship of his uncle Richard in 1743 when he was about 17 or 18 years old likely to preserve heritage rights.
While his father (VI) died intestate, he is not mentioned in his mother’s 1754 (proved 1756) will which left her household to her daughter Mary, a kettle to
daughter Elizabeth Sherrin, and an oaken chest to her grandson John, William (VII)'s second son. In 1741 William married Ann Lush, the
daughter of John and Elizabeth Lush in Blandford Forum when he was only 17, the year before his uncle made him his guardian. Eight children were of this marriage
before Ann died in 1760. Three of those survived to be named in his 1777 will (proved 1781) along with three more by his second wife Hannah Chant whom he married in
Frome St. Quinten in 1768. Those named his will were Elizabeth, Mary, Jane, George, Susanna and William. George and Susanna died just months before their father, both in 1780.
It has been maintained that he is the William baptised in 1742 in Broadmayne, but that parish record shows that while that the father
was William, the mother was “A…[smudged]...butt”. This baptism is clearer in the West Knighton parish register. The 1742 William was the first son of William and
Ann Talbot, especially given the tradition of the first-born male to be named William. This William was buried in 1766: West Knighton PR: “April 8th 1766 Buried William Talbot junior.”
Two years later William (VII) married again and with Hannah named their first born William.
The question then does arise as to why Mary, in her handwritten and rather informal will of 1754, does not mention her son William or his son William (1742-1766)
who were still alive, but only her grandson John. One can only surmise that they were estranged in some way.
William married twice and had sons named William by both his wives. The first, William (VIII-the first) was with Ann Lush who died in 1760, six years before William (VIII -the first) died in 1766. William married second Hannah Chant in 1768 and his first born with Hannah he named William (VIII-the second)
William married first Ann Lush b. 1721, c. 26 Oct 1721, Stour Provost, Dorset, England, Bur. 29 Apr 1760, Broadmayne, Dorset.
(Blandford Forum PR 1741: "Will. Talbot and ann Lush were married ---- June 11th by License")
8-William Talbot (VIII - the first), c. 8 Oct 1742, Broadmayne, Bur. 8 Apr 1766, West Knighton
West Knighton and Broadmayne registers: William Talbot junior buried April 8.
8-John Talbot b. 1744, c. 12 Feb 1743/44, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
(PR: 1744: "John son of William & Ann Talbot was baptized 12th of February")
8-Richard Talbot b. 1747, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, c. 18 Mar 1746/47, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1747, Bur. 9 Apr 1747, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
8-Elizabeth Talbot b. 1750, c. 7 May 1750, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
8-Mary Talbot b. 1751, c. 27 Jul 1751, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1751, Bur. 15 Aug 1751, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
8-Mary Talbot b. 1753, c. 28 Mar 1753, Broadmayne, Dorset, d. 1797, Bur. 5 Aug 1797, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
+ Walter Swyer Spicer b. 1734, c. 7 Mar 1733/34, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1789, Bur. 3 Jun 1789, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
It is with this marriage that Steve’s connection to the Talbots of Broadmayne stems. That descendancy is continued on another page which covers the descendancy of their son Robert Talbot Spicer (1772-1839), Steve’s 3rd Great-Grandfather, and his earliest ancestor, John Spicer (est. 1570 – abt. 1623) of Dorchester.
The other page is located at "Two descendant reports of my Spicer surname: John Spicer (est 1570-1623) and Robert Talbot Spicer (1772-1839)"
8-Stephen Talbot b. 1757, Broadmayne, Dorset, c. 1 May 1757, Broadmayne, Dorset, d. 1758, Bur. 12 Oct 1758, Broadmayne, Dorset.
8-Jane Talbot b. 1759, c. 12 Aug 1759, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
(PR:"Baptized: 1759 Aug 12 Jane Daug of William & Anne Talbot." )
+ Robert Grant
William married second Hannah Chant in Frome St. Quintin, Dorset. She died in 1775, buried 20 Aug 1775, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
8-William Talbot (VIII - the second) b. 1769, c. 6 Jan 1769, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1823, Bur. 15 May 1823, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
(PR: 1769 "January [5] William Son of William & Hannah Talbot.")
+ Elizabeth Noake married West Knighton 15 December 1790.
They had a son, William, born in 1791. An Ancestry Tree, with no sources, gives seven more children, but it is William who maintained the interest in Broadmayne. He rented a farm in Osmington, where he died in 1823 aged 55. In his will he left his ‘two estates, consisting of the great and small tithes at Little Mayne and certain free lands in Broad Mayne ’ to his eldest son William Talbot. Only two other children are named in that will, Francis, underage born in 1808, and Susannah, now Susannah Townsey.
Click to see the will of 1822, codicil of 1823, and administration in 1824. (New window.)
This William, the son of William and Elizabeth (Noake), born in 1791 and in 1823 married Mary Bryer in Melcombe Regis. He died in 1836 aged 44; although his ‘abode’ had been Osmington, he was buried at Broadmayne. In his will he stipulated the sale of his lands, his widow and children to enjoy the funds thus liquidated. In the second edition of Hutchins under ‘Broadmayne’, we learn what happened to the Talbot land in that manor: ‘Mr Furmidge bought a farm called Talbots, in Broadmayne, about 60 acres, in 1857 from the trustees of Mr Talbot who died in 1836.’ In the Dorset County Chronicle, March 19 1857, we find an advertisement for the sale; it includes the remaining interest the Talbots had in Little Mayne. Lot 11 is the tithes of Little Mayne Farm. Lot 12 offers a cottage in the Barton (farmyard), believed then to be the site of St Stephen’s Chapel; the position and dimension of the chapel are given in D1/11740. Lot 12 includes the strip of land described in a map of 1820 as the glebe; this was the land that supported the nominal rector of the chapel. The ‘tithes of Little Mayne Farm’ were on sale again in 1867, when Mrs [Mary Ann Hart] Sabine, daughter of William Talbot (1791-1836), advertised them in the Dorset County Chronicle (June 6), thereby ending the Talbot association with the farms of Little Mayne and Broadmayne.
8-George Talbot c. 15 Jan 1773, West Knighton, Dorset, England, d. 1780, Bur. 4 Jun 1780, Broadmayne, Dorset, England
8-Susanna Talbot b. 1775, c. 20 Aug 1775, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1780, Bur. 4 Oct 1780, Broadmayne, Dorset
3-Stephen Talbot c. 1625, d. 1664, East Stafford
3-Aaron Talbot d. 1690, Poxwell, Dorset, England
2-John Talbot MA b. Abt 1609, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1684, Winterborne Clenston, Dorset, England, Bur. 27 Aug 1684, Winterborne Clenston, Dorset, England
2-Elizabeth Talbot
+ Mr. Williams b. Poole, Dorset, England
2-Anne Talbot
+ William Page b. Charde, Somerset, England, d. 1640
2-Edith Talbot
+ William Locke b. Brockington, Dorset, England
2-Alice Talbot
+ Edward Shaw b. Broadwey, Dorset, England
2-Edmond Talbot d. 1636
1-Elizabeth Talbot