Johann Conrad Ham 339,644
- Born: Abt 1726
- Christened: 20 Aug 1726, Livingston, Columbia Co., NY 645
- Marriage (1): Christina Streit 27 Nov 1757 in Rhinebeck, Dutchess Co., NY (Drc)
- Died: Mar 1806-1808, Nassau, Rensselaer Co., NY about age 80
Another name for Johann was Coenrad.
FamilySearch ID: GW51-19W.
22 Nov 1781: Counrodt Ham is executor of the father-in-law's will, Frederick Staight of Rhynbeck in Dutchess County
1790 Census lists at Livingston, Columbia Co., Coonradt Ham with 2 males over 16, 1 male under 16, 7 females.
1790's: Mr. Boyce writes: "My Conrad Ham...moved up to Nassau Lake in Rensselear Co., NY in the 1790's. I was born and raised on another farm only 1000ft. from where Conrad settled. 1000 ft. below where I was born, the Dutch Ref. Church was started in 1803. Some 20 years later, it was moved to Nassau, 2 miles south. There were a few grave stones standing up intil 50 years ago and I expect that is where Conrad was buried. His son and later generations are buried at Nassau"
1799: Conrad and his wife Christina were listed as members of the East Greenbush (Rens.Co.) DR Church.
1800 Census lists at Shodack, Rensselaer County, (Nassau was partly taken from Schodack in 1806) Coonrad Ham with 4 (?) males under 10, 1 male 10-16 years old, 1 male 16-26, 1 male over 45, 2 females 10-16. 3 females 16-26, 1 female 26-45, 1 female over 45.
Johan Conrad was known to his great granddaugher, Elizabeth Porter as 'Conradt Hamm', but careful examination of what she knew compared to the careful research of David Kendal Martin and Hank Jones makes it pretty clear that this is the same family group.
Johan's baptism record exists, as well as numerous records of his sponsoring children through the middle part of the 18th century. He evidently fought in the Revolution, although the records are not exactly clear given the number of Conrad Hams. About 1790 he moved from his father's homelands around Livingston, NY to Nassau, not far from Albany, where he and his wife Christina are shown as members of the East Greenbush Dutch Reformed Church and he appears on the 1820 census. His will was probated in 1808 and showed his residence as Schodack, NY.
While not much is known about them, the family may have been fairly well off. In about 1833, when she was five, Elizabeth Porter visited Johan's son's house in Schodack and recalled it as 'big, with shiny floors'. This she recounted in interviews taken about 1913 by her neices. 339,572,646
The membership in the East Greenbush DR church is interesting because it is there that he and his family would have met the DuBois family. Cornelius DuBois was a deacon at the Schodack DR Church and in 1805 his wife joined the East Greenbush DR. Although I don't know the history of these two churchs, their son Jonathan married Conrad and Christina Ham's daughter Elizabeth. Aunt Libbie recalled in the early 20th century that Conellius Dubois lived in Schodack. She recalled a big house with large rooms and shiny painted floors, where she visited with uncle John and aunts Christina and Eliza Dubois when she was 5 years old. (she was born in 1827, so this would have been in 1833)
Speculation about the Revolutionary war participation of the Ham family: From Mott there is speculation: In the book, "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State, Vol. 1, the names of Conradt Ham and Frederic Ham appear as enlisted men, 10th regiment, Albany County Militia, (Land Bounty Rights) There are a Conrad & Fradrick & Frittrick Ham listed as from the 6th Regiment, Dutchess Co., N.Y., but as their names are spelled differently from those in the wills of Conradt Sr. and Conradt Jr., ancient copies of which are in possession of Earl Ham, Shiocton, we may infer that they are of a different family."
Consider that Johann Conrad was 50 years of age at the outbreak of the Revolution.
More speculation is in order as to who these Revolutionary war patriots might be. David Martin considers that it might be the Conrad Ham who was the son of this Conrad Ham's brother, Hendrick who was the enlisted man in the 6th regiment of the Dutchess County Militia. This is plausable in that this Conrad would have been 31 years of age in 1776.
It is perhaps the sons of Frederick Ham of Washington Hollow in Dutchess County who were the enlisted men in the 6th regiment of the Dutchess County militia, and the Conrad, the son of Henrick Ham and his son Frederick who were of the 10th Albany.
DAR Patriot Index shows Conradt Ham 1759-3/10/1806 m Christina_____ The 1759 entry would indicate that this is the Conrad s/o Jacob Ham, brother.
Harriet Elizabeth Mott (Aunt Bessie) makes a pitch for her ancestor, Johan Conrad: It is curious that this recollection found it's way into the files of the DuBois Family Association but is not in the collections of genealogy and notes she put together in the late 1940's. (): "When John Ham came to see us at the age of 93 in April 1934 (he was born in Burnt Hills, Saratoga Co., in 1841, he told us that our great great grandmother (sic) Elizabeth Ham DuBois, wife of Jonathan DuBois, had a brother Frederick who was 15 years old when he was in the Army of the Revolution. His father was also in the Army at Saratoga. Frederick, because he was so young, and because he knew how to cook, was commissioned to cook for the Captain. John Ham passed on to us the tradition that at Saratoga he cooked pumpkin pies for the officers and strained the pumpking through his sleeve." (Frederick, s/o this Conrad Ham, was born in 1759, making him 15 in 1774)
• Godparents: Coenrad Petri and Maria Kette. 647
• Military: American Revolution. 648 Both from the recollections of John D. Ham in 1934 and Warren Hamm of Rockport, TX it is considered that Johan Conrad fought in the Revolution.
Private in Capt. Conrad Cline's company of Albany County militia 10th Regiment (DAR Ancestor # A049907)
See source page 231. There is also a Conrad Ham in the Dutchess County militia Sixth Regiment on page 248
• Sponsored: with Debra Beeckman Johannes, s/o Peter Ham and Marytje Dyckman, 7 Aug 1754.
• Sponsored: Chirstina, d/o brother Casper, 27 Nov 1755.
• Sponsored: Conrad, s/o brother Jacob, 15 Jul 1759. 647
• Sponsored: Christina, d/o sister Tabitha, 24 May 1760. 647
• Sponsored: Christina, d/o brother Martin, 14 Nov 1761. 649
• Sponsored: Coenrad, s/o sister Christina and Niclaes Smit, 2 Mar 1767. 647
• Sponsored: John, s/o Johannes and Sophia "Fytie" (Rohrbach) Van Deusen, 8 Mar 1767. 646,647
• Tax List: next to Jacob Ham, Coenradt Ham with personal property valued at 11 72 taxed 286(?), 1779, Manor Of Livingston, New York. 646
Johann married Christina Streit, daughter of Friederich Streit and Anna Catharina Maul, 27 Nov 1757 in Rhinebeck, Dutchess Co., NY (Drc). (Christina Streit was born in 1739, christened 1 Oct 1739 in Red Hook, Dutchess Co., NY 650 and died about 1800.)