By Steve Spicer and Dan Talbot

The Talbots of Broadmayne, Dorset, appeared there in the mid-16th century and retained a presence for the next three hundred years; branches of the family took root in East Burton and Arne. For the first three generations they were lords of the manor; thereafter they were ‘yeoman’ or ‘gentleman’ farmers with a long-standing interest in Little Mayne Farm and Little Mayne chapel in the neighbouring parish of West Knighton which lies only 2 miles north.


In a quandary for a number of years over the origins of my 3rd great-grandfather Robert Talbot Spicer it finally dawned on me to look into his middle name, Talbot. It opened a big door to discover that he had been born out of wedlock to Mary Talbot, the daughter of William Talbot of Broadmayne in the county of Dorset. I found that a distant cousin, Dan Talbot in Reading, England, had traced the family back to the early 16th century through wills, leases, parish registers, and other documents. He had done the ‘heavy-lifting’ for what follows.
The Spicer ancestry and descendancy of Robert Talbot Spicer is on other pages.

Talbot of Broadmayne arms and pedigree.

1623 Visitation of Dorset

While William (III) signed the pedigree in this visitation, the arms may well have been granted to William (I). This Visitation has a description, but no drawing. It was used by Hutchins, who, about the family, says he knows little about the family other than the pedigree. (Footnote: Talbot in the Visitation of Dorset, 1623: https://archive.org/details/visitationofcound00stge/page/90/mode/2up ) Hutchins does say a little more about Little Mayne in Volume two. (Footnote: Talbot of Little-Maine: https://archive.org/details/b30456496_0001/page/426/mode/2up Hutchins says that it was leased to several persons, the last being William, grandfather of the late Stephen Talbot, gent. Paying a referred rent of 66l.13 s, 4 d. to the school master. On Mr. Talbot’s death 1734, the lease expiring the whole profits came to him. (Hundred of Cullifordtree – Knighton )

Talbot Shield (Unofficial)

It was presumably to William Talbot (I) that arms were granted:
an Azure a fess argent between three sinister gauntlets/hands clenched/couped or; crest: a talbot passant collared and chained or.
(The description gathered by Dan from various sources)
Neither Dan nor I have ever retrieved the arms from the College of Arms, Harl. 1166, fo. 2 as indicated on the Visitation. There are many online images (Google “Talbot coat of arms images’) which bear little resemblance to the one described in the visitation and while they may be those of another Talbot family, they are also likely fantasy. The arms that I’ve mocked up are from descriptions.

The following is a descendant report of ten generations of the Talbots of Broadmayne:

1-William Talbot (I) b. Abt 1530, d. 1574, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

Born around 1530, William Talbot (I) was at Corpus Christi College, Oxford in 1547 and at the Inner Temple in 1555. With money borrowed from his elder brother Thomas, William Talbot (I) purchased the manor of Broadmayne about 1560 from William West, baron De La Warr.
He married Christian Yeomans and died leaving a PCC will proved in 1574.
References: Purchase: Somerset and Dorset Notes and Queries vol.6.

+ Christian Yeomans

2-George Talbot

2-John Talbot b. Abt 1567

2-William Talbot (II) d. 1615, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

William Talbot (II) was second son to William Talbot (I) but survived to inherit the manor of Broadmayne. He married Alice Henning, daughter of John Henning of Poxwell Manor (PCC will 1617) and Dorothy Warham, daughter of John Warham of Compton Valence (PCC will 1572). The Hennings and Warhams are detailed in the 1623 visitation. His PCC will was proved in 1615. Henceforth the family named the eldest son William.

Ancestry of John Henning and Dorothy Warham on another page.

+ Alice Henning b. Abt 1572, Bur. May 1637, Studland, Dorset, England

3-William Talbot (III) b. 1591, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. After 1662, Little Mayne, West Knighton, Dorset

William (III) was first son of William Talbot (II) and Alice Henning. According to the visitation he was born around 1591. He married second Honor, daughter of William Tulse of Hinton Admiral and sister of Henry Tulse MP (d.1642). In 1625 William Talbot (III) took out a lease of lives on the farm and manor of Little Mayne.The three lives concerned were William Talbot (III), his wife Honor and their son William Talbot (IV). This document makes the link missing in Hutchins, the fact that the Talbots of Broadmayne and Little Mayne were the very same family.
     In 1629 he also purchased the tithes of the long-defunct Little Mayne chapel. This purchase is mentioned by Hutchins in the first edition under ‘Knighton’: ‘The tythes now valued at 30l per ann. were vested in Richard Noy; under whom William Talbot claimed them by purchase 7 Car. I [1632] and to his heirs they still belong. ’ He sold the lordship of the manor of Broadmayne, but ownership remained in dispute until the 1662 settlement between him, his wife Honor, and Robert Henning, son of his uncle Robert Henning (1590-1660) who had presented the living of Broadmayne in 1639.

References: a) 1625 Lease: Dorset History Centre ref: D-HIN/5191; b)1629 purchase of tithes of Little Mayne Chapel:(Dorset History Centre refs: D1/11741, D1/11740 and D1/11742); c)1662 settlement: (Dorset History Centre ref. D-CRI/A/7/1/1).

+ (m. first)Avis Cokeram

4-Avis Talbot

+ (m. second) Honor Tulse

4-Honor Talbot b. 1621, d. 1697

4-Anne Talbot b. Abt 1622

4-William Talbot (IV) b. 1623, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. Abt 1692, Little Mayne, West Knighton, Dorset

5-William Talbot (V) b. Abt 1640

6-William Talbot (VI) b. Abt 1660, Little Mayne, West Knighton, Dorset

William Talbot (IV) was presumably succeeded by a son and perhaps a grandson, let’s call them William Talbots (V) and (VI), born respectively about 1650 and 1670. What we know for certain is that William Talbot, gentleman of Little Mayne, took out a further lease on Little Mayne Farm in 1692 (Dorset History Centre ref: D1/11749). This date may mark the death of William Talbot (IV), the third of the three lives benefitting from the lease of 1625.

7-William Talbot (VII) b. Bef 1697, c. Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1733, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

William Talbot (VII) was born some time before 1697, son (I suggest) of William Talbot (VI, or V) and died intestate in 1733. By then Little Mayne Farm was in other hands; in 1731, James Spratt had taken out a lease on Little Mayne Farm. Documents after this date describe the family as of Broadmayne not Little Mayne; the tithes of the chapel, however, still belonged to the family.
     When William Talbot (VII) died intestate in 1733, his estate was administered by his widow Mary, who then left a 1754 will proved in 1756. In 1743 his brother Richard Talbot, yeoman of Arne, signed a bond of guardianship in favour of William Talbot (VIII), ‘William Talbot a minor the natural and lawful son of William Talbot the elder late of the parish of Broadmaine … intestate’. We can identify this Richard Talbot, who died in East Burton 1775, with the child born in the parish of West Knighton (where Little Mayne is) on July 24, 1697 (son of William) and baptised in Broadmayne on August 15, 1697 (son of William Talbot junior of Little Mayne and Mary his wife): ‘Richardus filius Gulielmi Talbot Jun de Little Mayne et Mariae uxoris Bapt Augusti 15’. This last entry informs us, then, that William Talbot (VII)’s parents were William and Mary.

References: a) 1631 Lease: Dorset History Centre ref. D1/11754. b) Guardianship bond: Dorset History Centre ref: AD/DT/G/2/17.

+ Mary d. May 1756, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, Bur. 27 May 1756, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

8-Elizabeth Talbot c. 14 Nov 1716, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, Bur. 5 May 1717, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

8-Elizabeth Talbot c. 13 Mar 1717/18, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

8-Mary Talbot b. 1721, c. 13 Sep 1721, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

8-William Talbot (VIII) b. 1724, c. 2 Oct 1724, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1781, Bur. 8 Jan 1781, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

William (VIII) was the son of William (VII) and Mary [?]. Baptised in Broadmayne October 2, 1724, "1724 Gulielmi filius Gulielmi & Maria Talbot Bap 2...[smudged]", he was favoured the guardianship of his uncle Richard in 1743 when he was about 17 or 18 years old likely to preserve heritage rights. While his father (VII) died intestate, he is not mentioned in his mother’s 1754 (proved 1756) will which left her household to her daughter Mary, a kettle to daughter Elizabeth Sherrin, and an oaken chest to her grandson John, William (VIII)'s second son. In 1741 William married Ann Lush, the daughter of John and Elizabeth Lush in Blandford Forum when he was only 17, the year before his uncle made him his guardian. Eight children were of this marriage before Ann died in 1760. Three of those survived to be named in his 1777 will (proved 1781) along with three more by his second wife Hannah Chant whom he married in Frome St. Quinten in 1768. Those named his will were Elizabeth, Mary, Jane, George, Susanna and William. George and Susanna died just months before their father, both in 1780.
     It has been maintained that he is the William baptised in 1742 in Broadmayne, but that parish record shows that while that the father was William, the mother was “A…[smudged]...butt”. This baptism is clearer in the West Knighton parish register. The 1742 William was the first son of William and Ann Talbot, especially given the tradition of the first-born male to be named William. This William was buried in 1766: West Knighton PR: “April 8th 1766 Buried William Talbot junior.” Two years later William (VIII) married again and with Hannah named their first born William.
      The question then does arise as to why Mary, in her handwritten and rather informal will of 1754, does not mention her son William or his son William (1742-1766) who were still alive, but only her grandson John. One can only surmise that they were estranged in some way.

+ William married first Ann Lush b. 1721, c. 26 Oct 1721, Stour Provost, Dorset, England, Bur. 29 Apr 1760, Broadmayne, Dorset. (Blandford Forum PR 1741: "Will. Talbot and ann Lush were married ---- June 11th by License")

9-William Talbot (IX - the first), c. 8 Oct 1742, Broadmayne, Bur. 8 Apr 1766, West Knighton West Knighton and Broadmayne registers: William Talbot junior buried April 8.

9-John Talbot b. 1744, c. 12 Feb 1743/44, Broadmayne, Dorset, England (PR: 1744: "John son of William & Ann Talbot was baptized 12th of February")

9-Richard Talbot b. 1747, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, c. 18 Mar 1746/47, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1747, Bur. 9 Apr 1747, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

9-Elizabeth Talbot b. 1750, c. 7 May 1750, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

9-Mary Talbot b. 1751, c. 27 Jul 1751, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1751, Bur. 15 Aug 1751, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

9-Mary Talbot b. 1753, c. 28 Mar 1753, Broadmayne, Dorset, d. 1797, Bur. 5 Aug 1797, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

+ Walter Swyer Spicer b. 1734, c. 7 Mar 1733/34, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1789, Bur. 3 Jun 1789, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

10-Robert Talbot Spicer b. 1772, c. 11 Oct 1772, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 31 Jul 1839, Owermoigne, Dorset.

For the Spicer ancestry and descendants see Two Descendant Reports: John Spicer & Robert Talbot Spicer

+ Sarah Rosanna Frizell b. 1782, Sturminster Newton, Dorset, c. 3 Feb 1783, Sturminster Newton, Dorset, d. 2 Nov 1866, Wool, Dorset.

10-Anne Spicer b. 1776, c. 15 Apr 1776, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

10-Catherine Spicer b. Bef 1781, d. 1787, Bur. 26 Sep 1787, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

10-William Talbot Spicer b. 1782, c. 28 Apr 1782, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1847, Bur. 27 Jun 1847, Broadwey, Dorset, England

+ Ann Randall c. 5 Oct 1780, West Lulworth, Dorset, England

10-John Spicer b. 1789, c. 15 Feb 1789, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

9-Stephen Talbot b. 1757, Broadmayne, Dorset, c. 1 May 1757, Broadmayne, Dorset, d. 1758, Bur. 12 Oct 1758, Broadmayne, Dorset.

9-Jane Talbot b. 1759, c. 12 Aug 1759, Broadmayne, Dorset, England (PR:"Baptized: 1759 Aug 12 Jane Daug of William & Anne Talbot." )

+ Robert Grant

+ William married second Hannah Chant d. 1775, Bur. 20 Aug 1775, Broadmayne, Dorset, England 16 October 1768 Marriage Record: (Original at a FHC only. Index record is https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX31-SQ5 ). Not found in Ancestry Images for Frome St. Quintin

9-William Talbot (IX - the second) b. 1769, c. 6 Jan 1769, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1823, Bur. 15 May 1823, Broadmayne, Dorset, England (PR: 1769 "January [5] William Son of William & Hannah Talbot.")

+ Elizabeth Noah

9-George Talbot c. 15 Jan 1773, West Knighton, Dorset, England, d. 1780, Bur. 4 Jun 1780, Broadmayne, Dorset, England

9-Susanna Talbot b. 1775, c. 20 Aug 1775, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1780, Bur. 4 Oct 1780, Broadmayne, Dorset

7-Richard Talbot b. 24 Jul 1697, West Knighton, Dorset, c. 12 Oct 1697, Broadmayne, Dorset, d. Mar 1775, East Burton, Dorset, Bur. 21 Mar 1775, East Burton, Dorset.

+ Mary Bur. 30 Dec 1765, East Burton, Dorset, England

8-William Talbot b. 1719, d. 24 Sep 1791, East Burton, Dorset, England

8-Richard Talbot b. 1722, d. 1797, Arne, Dorset, England

8-Stephen Talbot b. 1723, Lytchett Minster, Dorset, England, d. 1782

8-James Talbot b. 1731, Arne, Dorset, England

4-Stephen Talbot c. 1625, d. 1664, East Stafford

4-Aaron Talbot d. 1690, Poxwell, Dorset, England

3-John Talbot MA b. Abt 1609, Broadmayne, Dorset, England, d. 1684, Winterborne Clenston, Dorset, England, Bur. 27 Aug 1684, Winterborne Clenston, Dorset, England

3-Elizabeth Talbot

+ Mr. Williams b. Poole, Dorset, England

3-Anne Talbot

+ William Page b. Charde, Somerset, England, d. 1640

3-Edith Talbot

+ William Locke b. Brockington, Dorset, England

3-Alice Talbot

+ Edward Shaw b. Broadwey, Dorset, England

3-Edmond Talbot d. 1636

2-Elizabeth Talbot


Broadmayne and West Knighton

While the focus of this article is on the genealogy of a particular family, the history of the two parishes is important to note. Lying next to each other, the baptisms and marriages are often in one or another, or both, of the parish registers. The farm of Little Mayne, the Talbot’s domain, seemingly should be in Broadmayne, but the parish borders dip around it putting it in West Knighton. By the late 1700s, with both churches and rectories in need of repair and not distant from each other, the Bishop, recognizing that there were but forty families in Broadmayne and fifteen in West Knighton, ‘sentenced’ them to be united. (January 19, 1793, “Sentence of Union of West Knighten and Broadmayne” in Broadmayne parish register images 29-30 at Ancestry.com.) The boundaries have changed over the centuries and decades. Several histories of both parishes are online:

Both of the OPC pages have transcriptions of the parish registers, censuses, and other documents. Talbots appear in both registers, West Knighton’s beginning in 1693 online, and Broadmayne’s beginning 1662. Following is a gleaning of Talbots to 1800 from both registers.


Talbots in the registers of Broadmayne and West Knighton

I have tried to keep the original wording, whether in Latin or English. Smudged or indecipherable are in [brackets], notes or comments are in (parentheses). In a few cases I've indicated the image number from the Ancestry.com register. Guliemus is the Latin for William.

  • 1665 Broadmayne: Maria Talbot filia Johnannis bapt. April 7.
  • 1668 Broadmayne: Maria Talbot filia Johnis et Juditha buried June 14.
  • 1668 Broadmayne: Thomas Talbot filius Johanis et Juditha buried Feb 9
  • 1670 Broadmayne: Gulielmus Talbot filius Johanis et Juditha bapt. Jan 30.
  • 1679 Broadmayne: Juditha Talbot uxor Johannis Talbot buried Jan 25.
  • 1693 Broadmayne: Francisea filia Johnas Talbot et Elizabtha uxoris Bapt Oct. 1.
  • 1693 Broadmayne: Honora Talbot de Little Mayne buried Jan 4.
  • 1694 Broadmayne: Gulielmus Talbot de Little Mayne et Eliabetha Pagett wid. [married] Feb 2.
  • 1695 West Knighton: Richard Talbott son of William Talbott was born Jan 19.
  • 1695 West Knighton: Richard Talbott son of Willm Talbott was buried Feb 26.
  • 1695 Broadmayne: Johan filius Elizabetha [---] baptized Jan 18
  • 1697 West Knighton: Richard Talbott son of William Talbott was born July 24.
  • 1697 Broadmayne: Richardus filius Guliemi Talbot de Little Mayne et Maria uxoris bapt August 15 (img 7)
  • 1714 Broadmayne: Gulielmus Talbot buried October 6.
  • 1717 Broadmayne: Elizabetha filia Gulielmus & Maria Talbot baptized Aug 2.
  • 1722 Broadmayne: Georgius Linsey de [parish Affpiddle] & Elizabetha Talbot [de this parish] married Nov 5.
  • 1724 Broadmayne: Gulielmi filius Gulielmi & Maria Talbot Bap 2...[smudged]" (indexed incorrectly as “Tilson” and a burial in Ancestry.com)
  • 1729 Broadmayne: Elizabetha Talbot [^uxor] Spulta 4th die Jan 1729 (a burial indexed in Ancestry as a baptism)
  • 1731 Broadmayne: Wm. Talbott was buried the 23 of April
  • 1731 Broadmayne: Eliz. the wido of Wm Talbott was buried 23 April
  • 1742 Broadmayne & West Knighton: “William son of William and ‘A[nn Talb]utt bapt 8 October”. (clearer in West Knighton PR.)
  • 1743 Broadmayne: Ann dau of [gap] Ann Talbot was buried.
  • 1744: Broadmayne: John son of William and Ann Talbot bapt Feb 24.
  • 1744: West Knighton: Ann dau of William and Ann Talbot buried
  • 1746: Broadmayne: Richard son of William and Ann Talbot bapt Mar 7.
  • 1747: Broadmayne and West Knighton: Richard son of William and Ann Talbot buried April 7.
  • 1750 Broadmayne: Elizabeth dau of William and Ann Talbot bapt
  • 1751 West Knighton: William Talbot son of William and Mary Talbot bapt
  • 1751 Broadmayne: Mary dau of William and Ann Talbot bapt 27 July and buried 15 August.
  • 1753 Broadmayne: Mary dr of William and Ann Talbot was Baptized ye 28th of March __
  • 1756 Broadmayne: Mary Talbot widow was buried 27 May.
  • 1757 West Knighton and Broadmayne: Steven/Stephen Talbot baptised son of William and Anne May1. (img 20)
  • 1758 Broadmayne Stephen son of William and Anne Talbot buried Oct 12. (Img 25)
  • 1759 Broadmayne and West Knighton: Jane dau of William and Anne Talbot bapt August 12. (indexed burial)
  • 1760 West Knighton and Broadmayne: Ann wife of William Talbot buried April 29
  • 1760 Broadmayne: Frances (Francis?) Talbot buried June 22
  • 1766 West Knighton and Broadmayne registers: William Talbot junior buried April 8.
  • 1769 Broadmayne: William Talbot son of William and Hannah Talbot bapt. Jan 11.
  • 1770 Broadmayne: George Talbot buried June 5. Rec'd Cert. (R.C.)
  • 1775 Broadmayne: Hannah Talbot buried Aug 20. R.C.
  • 1780 Broadmayne: George Talbot buried June 4. R.C.
  • 1780 Broadmayne: Susannah Talbot buried October 4. R.C.
  • 1781 Broadmayne: William Talbot buried Jan. 8. R.C.
  • 1793 Broadmayne: Wm. Son of Wm & Elizabeth Talbot was Baptised June 14, was born Sept 29, 1791. (indexed burial)
  • 1793 Broadmayne: Elizabeth daughter of Wm. & Elizabeth Talbot bapt. July 15.
  • 1797 Broadmayne: Mary Spicer (née Talbot) was buried Aug 5. “came to Arch-Ds visitation.”
  • 1798 Broadmayne: Stephen son of Wm. & Elizabeth Talbot was buried Sept 19.
  • 1799 Broadmayne: Susannah daughter of Wm. & Elizabeth Talbot bapt. Jan 9.
  • 1799 Broadmayne: Mary daughter of Wm & Elizabeth Talbot was buried Jan 9

Some maps

Hopefully coming soon a 1742 map of Little Mayne Farm.

1811 Broadmayne Inclosure Award Map
1844 Tithe map cropped.
1844 full tithe map of West Knighton illustrating the closeness of the parish to Broadmayne.

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